A Discussion of Ether 4, And How Moroni’s Words Apply to the Gentiles & Covenant Seed

1 And the Lord commanded the brother of Jared to go down out of the mount from the presence of the Lord, and write the things which he had seen; and they were forbidden to come unto the children of men until after that he should be lifted up upon the cross; and for this cause did king Mosiah keep them, that they should not come unto the world until after Christ should show himself unto his people.

“This record of Ether seeing the finger of the Lord, and then the Lord wasn’t meant to come unto mankind until after Christ should be lifted up upon the cross.” (from LDS church)

Is this the full truth?  Was is just about this story of Ether seeing Christ, or was it more than that?

 2 And after Christ truly had showed himself unto his people he commanded that they should be made manifest. He showed himself to the Nephites, beginning in 3 Nephi 11

How righteous were these people?  (None of them are lost, law of consecration, no classes)


 3 And now, after that, they have all dwindled in unbelief; and there is none save it be the Lamanites, and they have rejected the gospel of Christ; therefore I am commanded that I should hide them up again in the earth.

Who is writing? Moroni   Who has written Ether 3? Moroni (abridging Ether)

What is Moroni hiding in the earth?

 4 Behold, I have written upon these plates the very things which the brother of Jared saw; and there never were greater things made manifest than those which were made manifest unto the brother of Jared. What was “made manifest” unto the brother of Jared?

We have an account of Ether seeing the Lord touching the stones, but do we have a full account?

Ether 3:25 And when the Lord had said these words, he showed unto the brother of Jared all the inhabitants of the earth which had been, and also all that would be; and he withheld them not from his sight, even unto the ends of the earth.

26 For he had said unto him in times before, that if he would believe in him that he could show unto him all things—it should be shown unto him; therefore the Lord could not withhold anything from him, for he knew that the Lord could show him all things.


 5 Wherefore the Lord hath commanded me to write them; and I have written them. And he commanded me that I should seal them up; and he also hath commanded that I should seal up the interpretation thereof; wherefore I have sealed up the interpreters, according to the commandment of the Lord. What is Moroni sealing up?  Records + interpreters.  Why? Wickedness

This is familiar:  Ether 3:27-28 And the Lord said unto him: Write these things and seal them up; and I will show them in mine own due time unto the children of men. And it came to pass that the Lord commanded him that he should seal up the two stones which he had received, and show them not, until the Lord should show them unto the children of men.

How righteous does a society need to be to read what Ether has written (not Moroni’s abridgment of the record, but Ether in his own writing?)


 6 For the Lord said unto me: They shall not go forth unto the Gentiles until the day that they shall repent of their iniquity, and become clean before the Lord.

Shall they go forth unto a covenant person?  Perhaps, but NOT a Gentile.
 7 And in that day that they shall exercise faith in me, saith the Lord, even as the brother of Jared did, that they may become sanctified in me, then will I manifest unto them the things which the brother of Jared saw, even to the unfolding unto them all my revelations, saith Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Father of the heavens and of the earth, and all things that in them are. How righteous does a society need to be to read Ether’s writings? “even as the brother of Jared”

The “interpreters” or “two stones” (Urim and Thummim) was in the posession of Ether, then Moroni, then Joseph Smith…  Does it stand to reason that these items are passed to the next person God has ordained to the great work in recovering the covenant seed?

Who has the Urim and Thummim now? (Read Book of the Remnant, Church of Christ vs. 68-76)


 8 And he that will contend against the word of the Lord, let him be accursed; and he that shall deny these things, let him be accursed; for unto them will I show no greater things, saith Jesus Christ; for I am he who speaketh.

Speaks of the Gentile church.

If you deny these things, can you say that you believe in Christ?

 9 And at my command the heavens are opened and are shut; and at my word the earth shall shake; and at my command the inhabitants thereof shall pass away, even so as by fire.

Jesus Christ is speaking
 10 And he that believeth not my words believeth not my disciples; and if it so be that I do not speak, judge ye; for ye shall know that it is I that speaketh, at the last day.

Believing in Christ means believing in his messengers, and message. “…my words” and “…disciples”
 11 But he that believeth these things which I have spoken, him will I visit with the manifestations of my Spirit, and he shall know and bear record. For because of my Spirit he shall know that these things are true; for it persuadeth men to do good. After reading this verse, what do you think my invitation is to you? “believe these things” since if you do you will be visited with the manifestations of the spirit of Christ, and then you’ll KNOW and BEAR RECORD.

 12 And whatsoever thing persuadeth men to do good is of me; for good cometh of none save it be of me. I am the same that leadeth men to all good; he that will not believe my words will not believe me—that I am; and he that will not believe me will not believe the Father who sent me. For behold, I am the Father, I am the light, and the life, and the truth of the world.

Believing in Christ means believing in his messengers, and message.
 13 Come unto me, O ye Gentiles, and I will show unto you the greater things, the knowledge which is hid up because of unbelief. Is the Gentile church full of unbelief?  Yes.  What is Moroni’s invitation to these folks? “Come…”

Also notice “hid up” as in hid up in the vault, or repository, of the Lord, which is now in the possession of the One Mighty and Strong.


 14 Come unto me, O ye house of Israel, and it shall be made manifest unto you how great things the Father hath laid up for you, from the foundation of the world; and it hath not come unto you, because of unbelief.

The Lord is now speaking to the House of Israel.
 15 Behold, when ye shall rend that veil of unbelief which doth cause you to remain in your awful state of wickedness, and hardness of heart, and blindness of mind, then shall the great and marvelous things which have been hid up from the foundation of the world from you—yea, when ye shall call upon the Father in my name, with a broken heart and a contrite spirit, then shall ye know that the Father hath remembered the covenant which he made unto your fathers, O house of Israel. Again “hid up”

From before, “believe these things” now add “with a broken heart and contrite spirit.”  What is the opposite of having a broken heart and contrite spirit? From Mormon 8:

“[for] your churches, yea, even every one, have become polluted because of the pride of your hearts.  For behold, ye do love money, and your substance, and your fine apparel, and the adorning of your churches, more than ye love the poor and the needy, the sick and the afflicted.”

The Lord “remembering the covenant which he made unto your fathers, O house of Israel” is the theme of the Book of the Remnant.

Notice, who is the Lord talking to? House of Israel, not the Gentiles.


 16 And then shall my revelations which I have caused to be written by my servant John be unfolded in the eyes of all the people. Remember, when ye see these things, ye shall know that the time is at hand that they shall be made manifest in very deed. “These things” is the the Book of Mormon, and so when you receive the Book of Mormon the things written in the book of John “shall be made manifest in very deed,” or will be in the process of being fulfilled.

 17 Therefore, when ye shall receive this record ye may know that the work of the Father has commenced upon all the face of the land.

Speaks for itself
 18 Therefore, repent all ye ends of the earth, and come unto me, and believe in my gospel, and be baptized in my name; for he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned; and signs shall follow them that believe in my name.

Speaks for itself
 19 And blessed is he that is found faithful unto my name at the last day, for he shall be lifted up to dwell in the kingdom prepared for him from the foundation of the world. And behold it is I that hath spoken it. Amen.

Speaks for itself

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